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Join Erik and Steve from the “Grown Men Playing With Toys” podcast as they discuss their recent Barnhammer session, featuring a variety of Warhammer 40K armies and a pseudo crusade event that they put Cousin Josh through. The guys reflects on key takeaways and the significance of understanding win conditions for your army and the mission being played. They share details from multiple recent games where playing to the “win condition” influenced the outcome of the game and provide insights into how mission dynamics can influence game outcomes. Lastly, they explore the challenges of using niche or skew detachments and how they may be “bad” because of hard to mitigate “lose conditions”.
Chapters and Topics:
0:00 – Intro
1:56 – Winter Barn Hammer Recap and “The Gauntlet”
7:48 – Lessons Learned and Defining Win Conditions
28:24 – Playing the Mission as a Way to Avoid a Blow Out
32:59 – Steve’s Death Guard Win Condition
40:08 – Brainstorming Lose Conditions
48:45 – All-Rounder vs Niche Detachments and Lose Conditions
55:14 – Conclusion and 2026 Plans
Content Mentioned in this Episode:
I Taught My Peacock to Write a List – Part 1
I Taught My Peacock to Write a List – Part 2
Leagues of Votann vs CSM Battle Report
Chaos Knights vs Custodes Battle Report
Grey Knights Brotherhood Strike vs Orks War Horde Battle Report
Cousin Josh’s Necron List
Necrons
Awakened Dynasty
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Illuminor Szeras (165 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Eldritch Lance
• 1x Impaling legs
Orikan the Diviner (80 Points)
• 1x Staff of Tomorrow
Overlord with Translocation Shroud (105 Points)
• 1x Overlord’s blade
• 1x Resurrection Orb
• Enhancements: Nether-realm Casket
Plasmancer (75 Points)
• 1x Plasmic lance
• Enhancements: Veil of Darkness
Skorpekh Lord (120 Points)
• 1x Enmitic annihilator
• 1x Flensing claw
• 1x Hyperphase harvester
• Enhancements: Enaegic Dermal Bond
Skorpekh Lord (90 Points)
• 1x Enmitic annihilator
• 1x Flensing claw
• 1x Hyperphase harvester
BATTLELINE
Immortals (150 Points)
• 10x Immortal
◦ 10x Close combat weapon
◦ 10x Tesla carbine
Necron Warriors (200 Points)
• 20x Necron Warrior
◦ 20x Close combat weapon
◦ 20x Gauss flayer
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Ghost Ark (115 Points)
• 1x Armoured bulk
• 2x Gauss flayer array
OTHER DATASHEETS
Canoptek Reanimator (75 Points)
• 2x Atomiser beam
• 1x Reanimator’s claws
Cryptothralls (60 Points)
• 2x Cryptothrall
◦ 2x Scouring eye
◦ 2x Scythed limbs
Deathmarks (60 Points)
• 5x Deathmark
◦ 5x Close combat weapon
◦ 5x Synaptic disintegrator
Deathmarks (60 Points)
• 5x Deathmark
◦ 5x Close combat weapon
◦ 5x Synaptic disintegrator
Doomsday Ark (200 Points)
• 1x Armoured bulk
• 1x Doomsday cannon
• 2x Gauss flayer array
Flayed Ones (60 Points)
• 5x Flayed One
◦ 5x Flayer claws
Lokhust Destroyers (40 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Gauss cannon
Ophydian Destroyers (80 Points)
• 3x Ophydian Destroyer
◦ 3x Ophydian hyperphase weapons
Ophydian Destroyers (80 Points)
• 3x Ophydian Destroyer
◦ 3x Ophydian hyperphase weapons
Skorpekh Destroyers (90 Points)
• 3x Skorpekh Destroyer
◦ 3x Skorpekh hyperphase weapons
Skorpekh Destroyers (90 Points)
• 3x Skorpekh Destroyer
◦ 3x Skorpekh hyperphase weapons
“The Gauntlet” Storyline, Lists, and Games:
Game 1: “The Necrons have awoken. Disturbed in their slumber by the greedy mining of an unfamiliar foe, the nobles emerged to find that their Tomb World is covered with a short and squat xenos that is frantically working to strip the world of its resources. Disgusted by the arrogance of this afront, they spin up their minions and emerge onto the planet ready to evict the upstart squats and put them back in their place as a lesser species.”
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Necrons | Awakened Dynasty |
| VS | |
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Leagues of Votann | Needgaard Oathband |
| GW Mission | D |
| Primary | Scorched Earth |
| Terrain Layout | GW Terrain Layout 1 |
| Deployment | Tipping Point |
Leagues of Votann List:
Leagues of Votann
Needgaârd Oathband
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Arkanyst Evaluator (65 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Transmatter inverter
Brôkhyr Iron-master (75 Points)
• 1x Brôkhyr Iron-master
◦ 1x Graviton hammer
◦ 1x Graviton rifle
• 1x Ironkin Assistant
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Las-beam cutter
• 1x E-COG
◦ 1x Plasma torch
• 1x E-COG
◦ 1x Manipulator arms
• 1x E-COG
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
Kâhl (65 Points)
• 1x Forgewrought plasma axe
• 1x Rampart Crest
• 1x Volkanite disintegrator
Memnyr Strategist (55 Points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
• Enhancements: Dead Reckoning
Ûthar the Destined (95 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Blade of the Ancestors
• 1x Rampart Crest
• 1x Volkanite disintegrator
BATTLELINE
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 Points)
• 1x Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s melee weapon
◦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
◦ 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 7x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x HYLas auto rifle
◦ 1x Magna-rail rifle
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Kapricus Carrier (75 Points)
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Magna-coil autocannon
• 1x Smoke Launcher
• 1x Twin magna‑coil autocannon
Sagitaur (90 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
• 1x Twin bolt cannon
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (160 Points)
• 6x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
◦ 6x Close combat weapon
◦ 6x SP conversion beamer
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x Graviton blast cannon
Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 1x SP heavy conversion beamer
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 Points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
◦ 3x Bolt revolver
◦ 3x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
◦ 3x Magna-coil autocannon
◦ 1x Panspectral Scanner
◦ 3x Plasma knife
◦ 1x Rollbar Searchlight
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 Points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
◦ 3x Bolt revolver
◦ 3x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
◦ 3x Magna-coil autocannon
◦ 1x Panspectral Scanner
◦ 3x Plasma knife
◦ 1x Rollbar Searchlight
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 Points)
• 1x Yaegir Theyn
◦ 1x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir
◦ 1x APM launcher
◦ 7x Bolt shotgun
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Magna-coil rifle
Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (170 Points)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Plasma sword
◦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
◦ 5x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 5x Plasma sword
Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (170 Points)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Plasma sword
◦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
◦ 5x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 5x Plasma sword
Kapricus Defenders (70 Points)
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Magna‑rail cannon
• 1x Smoke Launcher
• 1x Twin magna‑coil autocannon
Game 2: “As the sounds of battle carry on, another force is attracted to the cacophony. Excited by the opportunity for loot and a good fight, they fire off their signal flares. As the Necrons recover and the dwarves retreat, a combination of engines, shouting voices, what sounds like shouts of “Waaagh!” can be heard in the distance”
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Necrons | Awakened Dynasty |
| VS | |
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Orks | Kult of Speed |
| GW Mission | A |
| Primary | Take & Hold |
| Terrain Layout | GW Terrain Layout 1 |
| Deployment | Tipping Point |
Orks List:
Orks
Kult of Speed
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Deffkilla Wartrike (95 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Boomstikks
• 1x Killa jet
• 1x Snagga klaw
• Enhancements: Squig-hide Tyres
Deffkilla Wartrike (80 Points)
• 1x Boomstikks
• 1x Killa jet
• 1x Snagga klaw
Warboss (110 Points)
• 1x Attack squig
• 1x Kombi-weapon
• 1x Power klaw
• 1x Twin sluggas
• Enhancements: Fasta Than Yooz
BATTLELINE
Boyz (170 Points)
• 19x Boy
◦ 19x Choppa
◦ 19x Slugga
• 1x Boss Nob
◦ 1x Power klaw
◦ 1x Slugga
OTHER DATASHEETS
Battlewagon (160 Points)
• 4x Big shoota
• 1x Deff rolla
• 1x Grabbin’ klaw
• 1x Lobba
• 1x Wreckin’ ball
• 1x Zzap gun
Boomdakka Snazzwagon (70 Points)
• 1x Big shoota
• 1x Grot blasta
• 1x Mek speshul
• 1x Spiked wheels
Boomdakka Snazzwagon (70 Points)
• 1x Big shoota
• 1x Grot blasta
• 1x Mek speshul
• 1x Spiked wheels
Deffkoptas (80 Points)
• 3x Deffkopta
◦ 3x Kopta rokkits
◦ 3x Slugga
◦ 3x Spinnin’ blades
Deffkoptas (80 Points)
• 3x Deffkopta
◦ 3x Kopta rokkits
◦ 3x Slugga
◦ 3x Spinnin’ blades
Gretchin (40 Points)
• 10x Gretchin
◦ 10x Close combat weapon
◦ 10x Grot blasta
• 1x Runtherd
◦ 1x Runtherd tools
◦ 1x Slugga
Kustom Boosta-blasta (70 Points)
• 1x Burna exhausts
• 1x Grot blasta
• 1x Rivet kannon
• 1x Spiked ram
Kustom Boosta-blasta (70 Points)
• 1x Burna exhausts
• 1x Grot blasta
• 1x Rivet kannon
• 1x Spiked ram
Lootas (50 Points)
• 1x Spanner
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Rokkit launcha
• 4x Loota
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Deffgun
Lootas (50 Points)
• 1x Spanner
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Rokkit launcha
• 4x Loota
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Deffgun
Megatrakk Scrapjet (75 Points)
• 1x Nose drill
• 1x Rokkit kannon
• 2x Twin big shoota
• 1x Wing missiles
Megatrakk Scrapjet (75 Points)
• 1x Nose drill
• 1x Rokkit kannon
• 2x Twin big shoota
• 1x Wing missiles
Rukkatrukk Squigbuggy (95 Points)
• 1x Saw blades
• 1x Sawn-off shotgun
• 1x Squig-launchas
Rukkatrukk Squigbuggy (95 Points)
• 1x Saw blades
• 1x Sawn-off shotgun
• 1x Squig-launchas
Shokkjump Dragsta (70 Points)
• 1x Kustom shokk rifle
• 1x Rokkits
• 1x Saw blades
Shokkjump Dragsta (70 Points)
• 1x Kustom shokk rifle
• 1x Rokkits
• 1x Saw blades
Stormboyz (65 Points)
• 4x Stormboy
◦ 4x Choppa
◦ 4x Slugga
• 1x Boss Nob
◦ 1x Power klaw
◦ 1x Slugga
Warbikers (65 Points)
• 2x Warbiker
◦ 2x Choppa
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Twin dakkagun
• 1x Boss Nob on Warbike
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Power klaw
◦ 1x Twin dakkagun
Warbikers (130 Points)
• 5x Warbiker
◦ 2x Choppa
◦ 5x Close combat weapon
◦ 5x Twin dakkagun
• 1x Boss Nob on Warbike
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Power klaw
◦ 1x Twin dakkagun
Warbikers (65 Points)
• 2x Warbiker
◦ 2x Choppa
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Twin dakkagun
• 1x Boss Nob on Warbike
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Power klaw
◦ 1x Twin dakkagun
Game 3: “As the last of the Orks perish or flee, the Necrons start to fortify the position on the Tomb World. Unbeknownst to them, the sheer amount of biomass from the slaughter of the Orks has attracted a new foe. Chittering and clacking sounds can be heard in the distance as it approaches.”
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Necrons | Awakened Dynasty |
| VS | |
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Tyranids | Vanguard Onslaught |
| GW Mission | C |
| Primary | Linchpin |
| Terrain Layout | GW Terrain Layout 1 |
| Deployment | Tipping Point |
Tyranids List:
Tyranids
Vanguard Onslaught
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Broodlord (80 Points)
• 1x Broodlord claws and talons
Broodlord (90 Points)
• 1x Broodlord claws and talons
• Enhancements: Stalker
Deathleaper (80 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Lictor claws and talons
Neurotyrant (105 Points)
• 1x Neurotyrant claws and lashes
• 1x Psychic scream
Winged Tyranid Prime (65 Points)
• 1x Prime talons
BATTLELINE
Gargoyles (170 Points)
• 20x Gargoyle
◦ 20x Blinding venom
◦ 20x Fleshborer
OTHER DATASHEETS
Exocrine (140 Points)
• 1x Bio-plasmic cannon
• 1x Powerful limbs
Genestealers (140 Points)
• 10x Genestealer
◦ 10x Genestealers claws and talons
Genestealers (140 Points)
• 10x Genestealer
◦ 10x Genestealers claws and talons
Lictor (60 Points)
• 1x Lictor claws and talons
Lictor (60 Points)
• 1x Lictor claws and talons
Mawloc (135 Points)
• 1x Distensible jaw
• 1x Mawloc scything talons
Mawloc (135 Points)
• 1x Distensible jaw
• 1x Mawloc scything talons
Mawloc (135 Points)
• 1x Distensible jaw
• 1x Mawloc scything talons
Neurolictor (70 Points)
• 1x Piercing claws and talons
Raveners (125 Points)
• 5x Ravener
◦ 5x Ravener claws and talons
Raveners (125 Points)
• 5x Ravener
◦ 5x Ravener claws and talons
Tyranid Warriors with Melee Bio-weapons (75 Points)
• 1x Tyranid Prime
◦ 1x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons
• 2x Tyranid Warrior
◦ 2x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons
Von Ryan’s Leapers (70 Points)
• 3x Von Ryan’s Leaper
◦ 3x Leaper’s talons
Game 4: “Lawn gnomes?
Fungi?
Bugs?
This Tomb World is starting to sound like a garden. Based on the stench wafting over the horizon, a certain Chaos God agrees and has sent has favorite minions to claim it for him”
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Necrons | Awakened Dynasty |
| VS | |
| Faction: | Detachment: |
| Death Guard | Tallyband Summoners |
| GW Mission | B |
| Primary | Supply Drop |
| Terrain Layout | GW Terrain Layout 1 |
| Deployment | Tipping Point |
Death Guard List:
Death Guard
Tallyband Summoners
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Biologus Putrifier (60 Points)
• 1x Hyper blight grenades
• 1x Injector pistol
• 1x Plague knives
Great Unclean One (250 Points)
• 1x Bilesword
• 1x Plague flail
• 1x Putrid vomit
Mortarion (380 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Lantern
• 1x Rotwind
• 1x Silence
Rotigus (265 Points)
• 1x Gnarlrod
• 1x Streams of brackish filth
Tallyman (50 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Plasma pistol
Typhus (100 Points)
• 1x Lakrimae
BATTLELINE
Plague Marines (95 Points)
• 1x Plague Champion
◦ 1x Plasma gun
◦ 1x Power fist
• 4x Plague Marine
◦ 1x Blight launcher
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Icon of Despair (Aura)
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 4x Plague knives
◦ 1x Plague spewer
Plague Marines (95 Points)
• 1x Plague Champion
◦ 1x Plasma gun
◦ 1x Power fist
• 4x Plague Marine
◦ 1x Blight launcher
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Icon of Despair (Aura)
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 4x Plague knives
◦ 1x Plague spewer
Plaguebearers (110 Points)
• 1x Plagueridden
◦ 1x Plaguesword
• 9x Plaguebearer
◦ 1x Daemonic Icon
◦ 1x Instrument of Chaos
◦ 9x Plaguesword
OTHER DATASHEETS
Nurglings (40 Points)
• 3x Nurgling Swarm
◦ 3x Diseased claws and teeth
Plagueburst Crawler (210 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 2x Entropy cannon
• 1x Heavy slugger
• 1x Plagueburst mortar
Plagueburst Crawler (210 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 2x Entropy cannon
• 1x Heavy slugger
• 1x Plagueburst mortar
Poxwalkers (130 Points)
• 20x Poxwalker
◦ 20x Improvised weapon
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