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In this episode of the Grown Men Playing With Toys podcast, hosts Erik and Steve dive into building a strong foundation for a Warhammer 40K list. They explore how to align your play style with matching detachments and units by using Steve’s beloved Leagues of Votann faction as an example. Key points include the importance of starting with a familiar play style, focusing on critical stratagems and combos, and then evaluating units for their role / efficiency in gameplay.
Chapter and Topics Include:
0:00 – Intro
1:26 – Barn Hammer Training Montage Begins
6:57 – The Goal for the List
8:14 – Evaluating Codex Detachments
23:57 – Sagitaur vs Champion – Debating Unit Tradeoffs
34:34 – Unit Size – Flexibility vs Stratagem Efficiency
42:37 – Leader / Bodyguard Combos
51:00 – Buffing Your Hammer Units
1:02:46 – Final Thoughts on List Building Philosophy
1:06:02 – Conclusion
Steve’s Needgaard Oathband List
CHARACTERS
Arkanyst Evaluator (105 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Transmatter inverter
• Enhancements: Oathbound Speculator
Brôkhyr Iron-master (75 Points)
• 1x Brôkhyr Iron-master
◦ 1x Graviton hammer
◦ 1x Graviton rifle
• 1x Ironkin Assistant
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Las-beam cutter
• 1x E-COG
◦ 1x Plasma torch
• 1x E-COG
◦ 1x Manipulator arms
• 1x E-COG
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
Memnyr Strategist (55 Points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
• Enhancements: Dead Reckoning
Ûthar the Destined (95 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Blade of the Ancestors
• 1x Rampart Crest
• 1x Volkanite disintegrator
BATTLELINE
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 Points)
• 1x Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s melee weapon
◦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
◦ 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 7x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x HYLas auto rifle
◦ 1x Magna-rail rifle
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Kapricus Carrier (75 Points)
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Magna-coil autocannon
• 1x Smoke Launcher
• 1x Twin magna‑coil autocannon
Sagitaur (95 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
• 1x Twin bolt cannon
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
◦ 3x Bolt cannon
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x Graviton blast cannon
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x SP conversion beamer
Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 1x SP heavy conversion beamer
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
Hekaton Land Fortress (240 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 Points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
◦ 3x Bolt revolver
◦ 3x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
◦ 3x Magna-coil autocannon
◦ 1x Panspectral Scanner
◦ 3x Plasma knife
◦ 1x Rollbar Searchlight
Hernkyn Pioneers (80 Points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
◦ 3x Bolt revolver
◦ 3x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
◦ 3x Magna-coil autocannon
◦ 1x Panspectral Scanner
◦ 3x Plasma knife
◦ 1x Rollbar Searchlight
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 Points)
• 1x Yaegir Theyn
◦ 1x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir
◦ 1x APM launcher
◦ 7x Bolt shotgun
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Magna-coil rifle
Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (180 Points)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Plasma sword
◦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
◦ 5x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 5x Plasma sword
Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (90 Points)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Plasma sword
◦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 2x Ironkin Steeljack
◦ 2x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 2x Plasma sword
Ironkin Steeljacks with Melee Weapons (90 Points)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Plasma sword
◦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 2x Ironkin Steeljack
◦ 2x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 2x Plasma sword
Kapricus Defenders (70 Points)
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Magna‑rail cannon
• 1x Twin magna‑coil autocannon
| Category | Description |
|---|---|
| Leader / Bodyguard Combos | Uthar the Destined with 5 Hearthkyn Warriors |
| All others solo | |
| Key Stratagems | Ancestral Sentence – Used in your shooting phase to give one unit Sustained Hits 1, which goes to Sustained Hits 2 if you spend 3 YP |
| Reactive Reprisal – Used in your Opponent’s Shooting Phase to shoot back at a unit that shot you, only if you are in Fortified Takeover. | |
| Honour of the Hold – Used in the Fight Phase to a give a unit an additional AP, which can increase to 2 additional AP if you spend 3 YP. | |
| Key Combos | Brokhyr Thunderkyn or Hekaton Land Fortress + SP Conversion Beamer’s “Conversion” keyword + Ancestral Sentence + being 12 inches from your target. 1 CP and 3 YP to give a SP Conversion beamer Sustain Hits 2 and ALL hits counting as Critical Hits? Count me in. Even better if you are in Hostile Acquisition and the target is standing on an objective for +1 to Hit. |
| Uthar the Destined + standing within 12 inches of a Hekaton Land Fortress + Hekaton Land Fortress + Reactive Reprisal. Caveat that this is a late game stratagem since you need to be in Fortified Takeover, but…..1 CP full shoot back ability? Just having this in your hip pocket to tell your opponent about will alter how they make decisions. | |
| Honour of the Hold + Ironkyn Steeljacks Buff up your attacks to a stat line of 6A, WS 3+, S6, AP -3 (or -4 with 3 YP), 1 Damage? This will push anything without an invulnerable save to save on 6’s (potentially even with Armour of Contempt). |
Content Mentioned in this Episode:
Stat Check: Episode 163 – Grotmas Featuring Sam Pope
Sam Pope 40K: The 3 Pillars of Competitive 40K
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